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Postby Mike Bracchi » 23 Aug 2012 19:04

When those who play piano professionally are asked which piano is the best one in the world today .... the easy answer, of course, is typically Steinway.

A Steinway piano is still considered the greatest ever and ranks #1 with the majority of artists around the world endorsing it with their signature on the company's website.

But in recent years, an Italian-made grand piano has started to capture the imagination of a lot of legendary pianists; so much so that a few internationally-renowned pianists have recently declared they'll only play on this one piano for all concerts and recordings in the studio.

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It's called a Fazioli, named after Italian concert pianist and engineer Paolo Fazioli. Even though it was created already in 1978--careful additions have been made to it through its evolution that make it one of the most carefully-crafted pianos in the world today.

The original aim of the company in the late 70's was to create a piano that had its own unique sound (in a time when many were made to sound virtually the same), produce smaller numbers of them due to the higher-quality materials put forth into making them and to make it an ever-evolving piano creation in progress to live up to modern standards as each decade wore on.
When they were finally showcased for the first time at various preview shows in Italy during the late 70's and early 80's ... it was treated almost as if it was an Italian fashion show instead of a preview of pianos.

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Well, the Fazioli was almost as beautiful as a female Italian model ... and probably just as tall if set on its side.

Piano makers in Germany were a bit flummoxed to learn then about the Italians trying to make a world-class piano.
To that time, Germany was the leading piano manufacturer globally. At that time, also, a lot of jazz and classical pianists were having fits of praise for the awesome German-produced 9-foot Bosendorfer piano ... complete with several extra bass notes.

German piano manufacturers perhaps might be considered to be more about engineering a piano that enabled sheer power and depth of sound and with an excess in design.

The Italians were arguably more careful in detailing the nuances of a piano's design and the subtleties of tone.

By the time the mid-80's rolled around, several world-renowned concert pianists were starting to create the buzz for the piano by playing on it in concerts halls overseas as well as at Carnegie Hall.
Critics picked up on its unique sound immediately and were noting that it seemed to have a special way of producing more of a sweeter tone than any other piano around at the time.

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Of course, the design of the piano that made it sound like nothing else around is part of the uniqueness and brilliance of Paolo Fazioli and his team of engineers...

The technical add-ons to the Fazioli that make it stand alone in the piano world ...

From the start, the mission of making the Fazioli was to focus on creating a piano that made a sound that would be the most pleasing to the discerning ear.
Their mission statement was to create a piano tone that enabled even harmonic components, being able to go from a triple pianissimo (ppp) to a triple fortissimo (fff) (very quiet to very loud for those not familiar with piano terms) without muddying the sound as is usually the case when doing a triple fortissimo, create a longer duration in certain tones played to enable an essence of cantabile (or a "sweeter" tone) and manufacture each key so you can distinguish every tone individually when playing a polyphonic work by Bach or other contrapuntal composers.

For an artist always trying to achieve the best possible sound on a piano--this was a godsend statement. It's no wonder a lot of artists who had challenges trying to achieve a singing tone on many of the world's best pianos in earlier decades went wild when finally being able to play on a Fazioli for the first time.

It's quite interesting what the engineers and manufacturers added to the piano to enable a pianist to control that sense of sound a little better. Maybe some would think that it's cheating to enable the use of a pedal in creating a carefully-articulated soft sound.

The Fazioli, though, added a unique fourth pedal to its base that enables the pianist to shift the keyboard slightly down close to the strings inside the body of the piano. This creates less force on the strings--hence being able to produce softer sounds. It's said that doing glissandos (basically dragging your finger(s) across the keyboard as you did as a kid) and articulating legato (plus fast passages) works much easier when using this fourth pedal.

Again, however, some might say it takes away from establishing that naturally on a lesser piano. It's all in your own interpretation of who puts in the most work playing a piece: The piano or the artist.

That obsession with sound all stems from the strings inside the piano, of course. In what's called the duplex scale (nothing related to moving a loud piano into a rental duplex), the space interval between the strings makes all the difference in the particular tone the piano makes.
In the front and back duplex scales, the Fazioli engineers used a secret, patented system in the spacing that enables the brass bridge in the back to slide along on a steel surface. Engineering secrets like this are probably coveted in the piano manufacturing world and wouldn't surprise me if they have a lot of their design secrets under lock and key so they can forward the idea that they may be the leading piano in the world within the coming decades.

This piano isn't for the person or family who's looking for a money-saving investment in a grand piano for their home. There are differing models and lengths to choose from (which can be a wide variance in price), but when you consider that the company uses 18k gold coating on some of the brass parts to prevent oxidation from occurring, you can see this is a luxury type of piano.

If you're an artist, you might be lucky enough to play on one eventually; because it's now becoming the go-to piano if you're one who pays careful attention to the production of sound in recordings and in the concert hall.

Most recently, Herbie Hancock became one of the internationally-celebrated artists to endorse and play on Faziolis all the time, everywhere (and maybe why he's up for Best Album of the Year at the Grammys).

Jazz pianist Marian MacPartland is known for playing on them and endorsing them on her celebrated NPR show "Piano Jazz." And, of course, many classical pianists have been playing on it since the 80's.
So far, a lot of pop pianists have stuck mostly with Yamaha or Steinway, but it's looking likely the Fazioli will snowball into other categories of the music world.


Roberto Prosseda plays Gounod's Concerto for piano-pédalier and orchestra.
Pinchi Pedalpiano System with two Fazioli grand pianos.

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Gounod: Concerto for piano-pèdalier and orchestra, 1st and 2nd movement.



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Postby Wally Gator » 23 Aug 2012 21:12

Thanks Mike. That was very interesting for sure. I had never seen one of these set ups before.
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Postby Eileen » 24 Aug 2012 00:26

That was certainly different Mike.Thanks for posting it
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Postby Gillian » 24 Aug 2012 10:56

Hi Mike,
That was a great watch. That will keep all of us on our toes!!
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Postby Pamela » 24 Aug 2012 12:27

Very Interesting Mike, what an unusual piano, he was certainly using his feet well, wouldn't like to try it... Pam :D
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Re: Food, Fashion & Triple Fortissimo (fff)

Postby Eddie Smart » 30 Jan 2013 13:50

Just followed the link on the Peugeot piano post to arrive here, very interesting to see a piano with pedals.i see what you mean when you say the peogeot one looks like one of these, nice information posts mike.

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Re: Food, Fashion & Triple Fortissimo (fff)

Postby Rev Tony Newnham » 31 Jan 2013 10:42

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Pedal pianos, and before that, pedal Harpsichords & Clavichords, have been around a long time, but are relatively rare, used primarily for organ practice, although Schumann did write a set of pieces for pedal piano (these days normally played on organ though).

There are 2 versions, the completely separate mechanism & strings as in the video above, and another version with pedals coupled to the existin g piano keyboard. There was a DIY design in "The Organ" magazine many, many years ago.

It strikes me that it would be easy enough to add a MIDI pedalboard to a digital piano - something I might try one day.

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Re: Food, Fashion & Triple Fortissimo (fff)

Postby Mike Bracchi » 31 Jan 2013 13:26

Rev Tony Newnham wrote:

It strikes me that it would be easy enough to add a MIDI pedalboard to a digital piano - something I might try one day.

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Hiya Tony,

That sounds interesting ... Viscount (amongst others) do their pedal boards as a midi option; if you do get around to it one-day, perhaps you could whack some photos of it in a post :D

Midi Pedalboards

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The Viscount Midi Pedalboard has been developed for those musicians that need to expand their potential through the use of a real organ pedalboard, Although these pedalboard's are standard on the viscount Classical Organ range they can be used with any MIDI devices such as keyboards, expander's or computer software.
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Midi Channel Programmable 1-16
Transmission Program Change Yes
Transmission Control Change 7 (volume) or 11(expression) on pedals
Expression Pedals 2 (optional) with independent programmable midi channel
Connections Midi Input 1 - Midi Input 2 - Midi Out - Expression Pedal 1 - Expression Pedal 2
Status indication 2 Led
Colour Light Oak, Medium Oak, Dark Oak
    Available models:
    A £1776 - 32 notes radial concave (AGO)
    B £1356 - 32 notes straight concave
    C £1356 - 32 notes straight
    D £1500 - 30 notes radial concave
    E £1231 - 30 notes straight concave
    F £1231 - 30 notes straight
    G £ 1044 - 27 notes radial

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Expression Pedal Kit £140

A bench is available for an additional price on request



Further info on Viscount Organs: http://www.viscountorgans.net
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Re: Food, Fashion & Triple Fortissimo (fff)

Postby Rev Tony Newnham » 29 Jun 2013 21:46

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I'll perhaps give it a try with my 13 note board when I eventually finish getting my study/music room/studio into some sort of order. (Major moving around of things to make space for the Cavendish to be used and to make room for the Nord C2D!) I've got a DIY-converted 30 note pedalboard on the Nord at present, but setting that up with the piano would be a major removal exercise, so that will have to wait until I can afford Nord's own pedals. I considered the Viscount set, but having moved my 30-note set, they're going to be tricky to transport, whereas I guess the Nord set are designed for transport - at least to some degree. Hammond also make a MIDI pedalboard of 25 notes IIRC. Promenade Music in Morecambe list them, along with the other variants (and have some pretty good prices on keyboards - well worth a visit or a browse of their we site).

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Re: Food, Fashion & Triple Fortissimo (fff)

Postby Rev Tony Newnham » 30 Jun 2013 08:48

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I'd forgotten I'd posted this! I'm hoping to use my 13 note pedalboard with my Roland digital piano (& new Yamaha ES keyboard) for some items in my concert next Saturday. The Yamaha doesn't have MIDI on DIN connectors, so I may end up using another keyboard for the sounds on the pedals if the bass end of the piano doesn't work. I'll probably set it up tomorrow and give it a try.

The Nord 27-note pedalboard I did buy - not too bad - and definitely easier than the 30 note wooden board to move! I'm using that with the Nord for the concert.

I'll report back later.

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Re: Food, Fashion & Triple Fortissimo (fff)

Postby Craig » 30 Jun 2013 11:57

Glad this link has been upped as I'd not come across it until now, good to watch :) The Fazioli pianos are very nice, only managed to play one once in a studio, but hearing the tone of the piano was an experience in itself. I've had to settle for the next best thing as I can't afford a Fazioli piano (or a new house to put it in) :lol: so I purchased a Fazioli sampled piano library which I use now and then. Far too large to convert and fit in a Tyros mind you, as it takes up 30GB of hard drive space.
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Postby Mike Bracchi » 30 Jun 2013 12:45

Craig wrote:Glad this link has been upped as I'd not come across it until now, good to watch :) The Fazioli pianos are very nice, only managed to play one once in a studio, but hearing the tone of the piano was an experience in itself. I've had to settle for the next best thing as I can't afford a Fazioli piano (or a new house to put it in) :lol: so I purchased a Fazioli sampled piano library which I use now and then. Far too large to convert and fit in a Tyros mind you, as it takes up 30GB of hard drive space.



Wowzers Craig ... you are very lucky to have seen one let alone played one ... they are somewhat like the Bösendorfer in that they are limited production instruments unlike pianos from Yamaha, Baldwin & Kawai that are sold just about everywhere.

A nice experience ... I can't play the piano (or the keyboard some may say :wink: ) but I would love to have seen and heard it 8)

Here is another 'strange' but wonderful piano I would love to tinkle about on :wink:

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Nice one Craig :)
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Re: Food, Fashion & Triple Fortissimo (fff)

Postby Craig » 30 Jun 2013 16:02

Same here with the Pleyel piano Mike, lovely futuristic design. If our numbers come up on the lottery who knows :D
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Re: Food, Fashion & Triple Fortissimo (fff)

Postby Rev Tony Newnham » 01 Jul 2013 10:02

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I've not (yet) played a Fazioli, but I have played a couple of Bosendorfer Imperial Grands (one in Birmingham Town Hall back in the mid-'70's). Fabulous pianos that just stretch away into the distance - and have an extra 1/2-octave of keys in the bass. Very nice.

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