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Another classical piece.

Postby SysExJohn » 21 Jul 2013 20:56

Howdy all,

Thought I'd treat(?) you to another piece of classical music.
https://app.box.com/s/q193yjpy559xrccyu3me
All my own work as usual.

This one is very much work in progress and this was my first rendering.
I use Gary Garritan's GPO4 (Garritan Personal Orchestra) virtual instrument sample library.
There's a baroque organ lurking in there somewhere!

Hope you like it.
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Re: Another classical piece.

Postby Craig » 22 Jul 2013 11:30

Hi John. I enjoyed your classical arrangement, nice to hear GP04 given a work out :)
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Re: Another classical piece.

Postby SysExJohn » 22 Jul 2013 13:57

Thanks Craig,

In the cold clear light of dawn I realise I've got the oboes far too far forward in the mix.
Actually it's from three Garritan sample libraries, GPO4, COMB and CPO (the organ library), bought gradually over the years.

I'm having a break away from it today as I worked myself to a standstill yesterday to get all the notes in.

I may post it again when it's made some progress from the current, rather primitive version.

Kind regards,
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Re: Another classical piece.

Postby Mike Bracchi » 22 Jul 2013 23:49

Hiya John,

I enjoyed listening to your arrangement of this piece, very nicely put together I thought .... really looking forward to the 'finished' version if this is the 'primitive' rendition :wink: :D

Great stuff John, thank you for sharing with us, all the best.
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Re: Another classical piece.

Postby SysExJohn » 25 Jul 2013 12:45

Thanks for your comments and listening to my classical pieces.

Here's the latest rendering having moved on a bit from the original 'primitive' rendering.
Still incomplete but, now starting to sound the way I want it.
https://app.box.com/s/ti0qlphbobuwso4akf37
The early version 'is no more'.

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Re: Another classical piece.

Postby Wally Gator » 25 Jul 2013 15:07

Sounds good. Also sounds like it would be hard to do.
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Re: Another classical piece.

Postby SysExJohn » 25 Jul 2013 16:54

Wally Gator wrote:Sounds good. Also sounds like it would be hard to do.


Thanks Wally,

Well, it depends what you mean by "hard".
Hard, in the sense of difficult, no.
Hard, in the sense of knowing what to do, yes, initially, but I believe virtually anybody can do it, it's whether they're prepared to spend the time learning how to.
Hard, in the sense of a lot of laborious, meticulous work, certainly.
It does take hours and hours of finicky attention to detail, line by line of the score.

The most difficult part is judging where to enter crescendo and diminuendo and by how much, and also where and by how much to change tempo. Often, I find, it's just trial and error with a little bit of experience helping out.
And, of course, you have to know your sequencing software very well and how the sample player responds to various the MIDI controllers.
I suppose 'patience' is the most operative word.
These things often take many weeks to get just right.

I suppose it comes down to what motivates one person but not another.

From my point of view creating backing tracks for my wife to sing to gives me a lot of satisfaction.
Hearing her performing with my tracks backing her gives me a big kick.

Each to their own taste I guess!
Thanks very much for commenting.
Kind regards,
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Re: Another classical piece.

Postby Mike Bracchi » 26 Jul 2013 10:02

Hiya John,

I enjoyed listening to that this morning, very nice :D You must have the patience of a saint, I think I would end up pulling my hair out :lol:

Well done John, looking forward to hearing some more from you soon :wink:
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Re: Another classical piece.

Postby SysExJohn » 26 Jul 2013 10:47

Hi Mike,

It won't be, can't be "soon"!
I'll finish this piece then work out how I can cut it down to 4 minutes.
That's the limit for inclusion on the Garritan Christmas CD, which is what I'm aiming for.
I've worked out how I can remove about 20 measures from the string and flute parts and end up tacking the last 6 measures to the end.
But, at the moment, how to do the same with the 4 oboe lines defeats me.
That was a days work. And to get 11 out 15 instruments sorted is not a bad result. I'll revisit it later.
And, Wally, this is the part that's really difficult, making changes to Bach's original score that still sound plausible.

After I've done that I'll get back to two pieces of Berlioz from the opera "Faust" that I've promised my wife I'll finish soon.
One aria "The King of Thule" is all notated but needs mucho worko on.
The other one is started ...

I'll post the the Roi de Thule in its embryonic state, you'll hear how much work is needed to tidy it up.
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